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#14243013 Nov 06, 2019 at 03:05 PM · Edited 12 hours ago
29 Posts
Hello, linking the Jaydenz Sin Guide, for all not in the theory crafter discord.

Guides include gearing, utilities, and tips on raid fights.

IMP Version:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-im6TYDdiwDyyKWv1ug-6rYi6HNPCk5qiMMRGIFdRao/edit

Pub Version:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TXsvUexeCXhUg1Ra4cABXHm1UccaRSTR6pH6TitBTpc/edit

Hopefully, Jaydenz will keep updating the google docs for 6,0 and forwards.
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#14243018 Nov 06, 2019 at 01:18 PM
Grand Moff
80 Posts
Handor, as i mentioned on the theorycrafter discord this guide is a biased opinion at best. There are certain glaring choices which are not the best possible choices to make. She might be in "7 teams" but the simple fact that her brain child of force regen is now "not very useful" is at least for me a reason not to take her guide as dogma.

I recommend ppl go to 1) read Riku's guide www.tiny.cc/riku-v6-gear-guide 2) go to the theorycrafter discord and the class guide discord themselves and make an informed opinion.
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#14243026 Nov 06, 2019 at 03:29 PM
29 Posts
What you don't understand is this:

1 - Not every utility must be useful, there are way way more trash ones then force speed.
2 - There wasn't any useful idea or suggestion when they were gonna nerf, not a single soul pointed out a good one. Now everbody is mad.
3 - I mean how do you think powertech survived for 3 years with only kolto and energy shield?
4 - I think guide is solid and, but it's upto people to follow or not of course ^^ Simply posting for avalibity.
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#14243028 Nov 06, 2019 at 01:36 PM
3 Posts
Handor is again missing the entire point that was discussed at length on the theorycrafting discord.

It is like you're not reading or is willing to take in anything that is & was being said and you are just making a bias standpoint towards Jaydenz without listening to any arguement that was pointed out to you on several discords for a very logical reason.

Now you are creating confusing people even here. Can we not?
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#14243029 Nov 06, 2019 at 01:37 PM
Grand Moff
80 Posts
What you don't understand is this:

1 - Not every utility must be useful, there are way way more trash ones then force speed.

there are only 2 uitilities that are useful for a sin as it is...

2 - There wasn't any useful idea or suggestion when they were gonna nerf, not a single soul pointed out a good one. Now everbody is mad.

The who discussion on the theorycrafter discord was stoneblocked by one jugg main that wanted it gone and juggs be buffed, a pt main that was a yes man, and somebody taht grew bored and wanted more of a chllenge and had this obsession with force regen.

3 - I mean how do you think powertech survived for 3 years with only kolto and energy shield?

And what do pts have to do with sins????


4 - I think guide is solid and, but it's upto people to follow or not of course ^^ Simply posting for avalibity.

As i said the guide has glaring errors. And following it is at your peril. So do evberyone a favour and stop brown nosing.
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#14243031 Nov 06, 2019 at 03:42 PM
29 Posts
Thank u Tiz for being voice of reason.

Some people might find useful others may not, simply shared for avability.

That's being said there is some mixed opinions and it's completly normal since its only beginning of new expansion and everything is more complicated than ever.

So take everything with grain of salt, and try to read from multiple sources ^^
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#14243034 Nov 06, 2019 at 01:45 PM
Commander
283 Posts
To make sure that ppl get what I mean.

It IS true what Xan and Dready said.

But my main point is that this shouldnt be discussed here IMO.
Xan and Handor both discussed this on discords..

Why continue here on the website? only thing Handor did was sharing the link.
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#14243035 Nov 06, 2019 at 01:45 PM
3 Posts
Voice of reason according to what? That Tizia is also missing the entire point that was pointed out on that discord?
And it has nothing to do with it being a new expansion, it has nothing to do with FS DR being removed.
Like i said you are completely and totally missing the entire point that was being discussed just because for have a huge bias towards anything she does regardless of what is being pointed out or said.
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#14243038 Nov 06, 2019 at 01:49 PM
Grand Moff
80 Posts
#14243027 Tizia wrote:

Xan, I honestly don't get it why you even continue here.

Handor simply shared the link with everyone and it can be useful for other ppl.
The fact you don't like Jaydenz, we all know that already.

Assassins survived the whole time (before 5.0) without force speed.
Sins got maybe nerfed too much, but it happened.. maybe Jaydenz didnt say the right things.. dont keep argueing about this, tyvm



I agree with what Handor said.

Thank you Handor for posting this.
Personally not my tank/gearing style but it can help other people.

Appreciate you shared the link.



I saw the edits Tiz. Im not crying. Im telling ppl to form there own opinions and go to these discords themselves. That you feel the need to be demeaning and even suggest i reroll, is just frankly shitty at best. Handor posted a link to a guide, I posted my opinion. Implying "im not allowed to continue here" is just shitty too.
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#14243041 Nov 06, 2019 at 03:51 PM
29 Posts
Dready are you fucking retarded man? I simply shared a guide wrote by a good player.

When you write one, I promise I'm gonna share yours on this post as well
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#14243042 Nov 06, 2019 at 01:52 PM
Commander
283 Posts
#14243041 Handor wrote:

Dready are you fucking retarded man? I simply shared a guide wrote by a good player.

When you write one, I promise I'm gonna share yours on this post as well



Tbh this is bit sad you start talking like this.

I'd say remove this topic because this only lead to unnecessary drama and seems it wont end.
I know I said something too but IMO this is getting out of control.
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#14243045 Nov 06, 2019 at 01:57 PM
3 Posts
#14243026 Handor wrote:

What you don't understand is this:

1 - Not every utility must be useful, there are way way more trash ones then force speed.
2 - There wasn't any useful idea or suggestion when they were gonna nerf, not a single soul pointed out a good one. Now everbody is mad.
3 - I mean how do you think powertech survived for 3 years with only kolto and energy shield?
4 - I think guide is solid and, but it's upto people to follow or not of course ^^ Simply posting for avalibity.





You are pointing things out that had nothing to do with the discussion at all just because you do not understand it because your nose is so far up her ass you are simply just ignoring everything that was being said.

That is why i posted my comments(After yours). Then the name calling is probably not the most mature way to go?
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#14243062 Nov 06, 2019 at 02:31 PM
Dark Council
947 Posts
Hey all,

Keep the discussion civil, you may have a difference of opinion but no need to throw insults around.

First & last warning.
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#14243063 Nov 06, 2019 at 02:33 PM
Emperor
4113 Posts
I was pulled away from my paid work because somebody in this thread was upset and wanted me to step in. I should point out that I don't read every post or even every thread that gets posted and this was one of those. The original poster deleted the thread but I have restored it to post this reply and then I'm locking it.

I understand both sides here. One side is saying here are some guides I found useful. The other side are saying, you were part of the discussions on the related Discord servers and are not presenting any of the discussion about why the guides may not be the best to follow. It's a discussion forum and people do not always agree with each other. In this case I think both sides have fair points for the pro's/con's of the guides.

I think the best thing would of been to provide a link to the Theory Crafters Discord for those that want to follow the main discussion. Here's the link for anyone interested: https://discord.gg/jqWyBcw

I think the language and attitude in this thread is not so cool. If you post something publicly then you should be prepared for negative feedback, that is the world we live in. On the flip side, if you reply to something you disagree with then there are ways to do it without being insulting. For everybody who posted here; I do hope when you are posting on 3rd party Discords you represent the guild better than you just have on our own forum.

It's clear everyone is just trying to be helpful in different ways. Your goals are the same. Try not to get so heated about things.

Anyhow, I'm locking the thread but leaving it undeleted so people can see the guides for themselves along with the pro/con discussion points you all raised.

It's a game, have fun πŸ˜€
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